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		<description><![CDATA[Shalom Homer,

Batya posted an important article on her Facebook page which you can also find on her Redeemed Israel Discussion Board. Based on an article in Charisma Magazine, the discussion is titled, "Is There an Identity Crisis Among Gentile Believers?" (We believe "Gentile Believers" is a misnomer but nonetheless copied the title of the article in question. ]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>Last night at our Scripture study I talked about this article that was written by Daniel Juster which disparages the Messianic Israel movement. This article was in Charisma magazine. This article just brings more confusion those in the church because they seem to see everything as Jewish and do not understand about our Hebrew Heritage. As you read the article &#8220;Is There an Identity Crisis Among Gentile Believer&#8221;</em></strong><em> <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">read the wording carefully</span>. As you will see Juster claims that you must have a Jewish heritage to be Israel, he does not believe we have the right to claim that we are Israel. The response by Batya Wooten is on target about who we are as Israel.</strong> </em></p>
<p><strong><em>What concerns me is that both Messianic Jewish Alliance and Messianic Israel believe in Yahshua but there is a battle that has to be resolved. The Scripture says in Ezekiel 37:19 that the two sticks will be one House of Ephraim and House of Judah, and we know that Yahshua came for the Whole House of Israel. It is very important that we walk in love for our Jewish brethren and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.</em></strong></p>
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<td><strong>Shalom Homer,</strong></p>
<p>Batya posted an important   article on her <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4GPWwqAPOuTNgpjkFkBbXk3Otc9B2PHHWMgSd9F8D0ht1ANJZVPw4ItZN072Dolo-5eiA7YaUj5TTxtWLTTN3ur-KRAwxMXcb5Skbtlp9iG6ztHvJGiQGyHbbiHOj97fDg=" target="_blank">Facebook</a> page which you can also find on her <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4HEuP_xaPuU-rAeyXKMoLm4a8_824CFjxeuf1F5btJlaJORCnlmROA3DHMgmgol88-PBox8HDN7f6NisCTOhwiJVCVG2RTbItObzuH-r5WjLwILW1KB3pMqGF9xk3kQtMDtw7EghJT_VFCvqIN8fe0LNcTkZuBmT7ljzD2DCqfrEljn36YMvTetrVc-i7ddcyfvSHKxXMj2SbmmxfXZv3KcrG76eE3UZ8aKAOGJk3bUoQ==" target="_blank">Redeemed Israel Discussion Board</a>. Based on an article in <em>Charisma   Magazine</em>, the discussion is titled,<em> &#8220;Is There</em> <em>an Identity   Crisis Among Gentile Believers?&#8221;</em> (We believe &#8220;Gentile   Believers&#8221; is a misnomer but nonetheless copied the title of the article   in question. Among the points that we make in our response is that,    Believers are called to be &#8220;former Gentiles.&#8221;)</p>
<p>If our reply blesses you, let us hear from you and let <em>Charisma</em> hear from you. The Charisma article and the reply from Angus and Batya, and   Scott Diffenderfer are both posted bellow. Our response was to long to be   posted there (<em>Charisma</em>), so Batya did two short post instead. To see   the article online and/or reply to it click <a title="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4F1RfSjHFNFGOjeeFCLb-xYqkvB9yjo9jUKDOH6NbVaS944stx5gS5dlkqqiz2UM1bvDR4rI8LEaf6IZJSCWrTbXVKJKyEYmS9NSzUueXqGzK08-7KafLX6LaIlxS85jydenakzxh_xD3nfxywIh18J7ipwgVGrLxrZQiJMp1iF02DfLpRbsMZY8WHkwPHM" href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4F1RfSjHFNFGOjeeFCLb-xYqkvB9yjo9jUKDOH6NbVaS944stx5gS5dlkqqiz2UM1bvDR4rI8LEaf6IZJSCWrTbXVKJKyEYmS9NSzUueXqGzK08-7KafLX6LaIlxS85jydenakzxh_xD3nfxywIh18J7ipwgVGrLxrZQiJMp1iF02DfLpRbsMZY8WHkwPHMi_JgWRNZxJYqcAKADx5I-t45XdjLQkjVrvKgPwhBIkdk9jRzu8yr5xex" target="_blank">Charisma article</a>.</p>
<p>Shalom,</p>
<p>Angus</p>
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<p><strong>Batya writes:</strong></p>
<p>On the Charisma Magazine page I recently found an article   by Daniel Juster in the &#8220;Stand With Israel&#8221; section (It is posted   below along with a link to it.) I personally think it is important that   Charisma readers hear from us on this issue. The article is based on an important   question, &#8220;Is There an Identity Crisis Among Gentile Believers?&#8221; In   it, Dan writes:</p>
<p>As we walked past the Egyptian exhibit in the Museum   of Art History in Vienna, I noted the great importance placed upon memorials   for the dead. The wealthy took great pains to prepare proper tombs and   memorials. Embalming to preserve the body was of prime importance. Why did   the Egyptians do this? It was a way of declaring significance in the face of   death. Human beings<br />
want to believe they are significant in the scheme of things. Anthropology   teaches us that traditions concerning death and the dead almost universally   declare life after death. These traditions affirm the significance of human   life in the face of death. The reasons for belief in significance vary, but   no religious system gives the quality answer that we find in the Bible, where   we learn that human beings are created in the image of God, for an   everlasting life of fellowship with Him and with other human beings.</p>
<p>This is the beginning point for the question of identity:   Who am I? Do I have worth? Many people experience great doubt concerning   their worth. They experienced terrible rejections in their growing up years,   or tragic events that gave rise to deep questions concerning their own worth.   Identity was defined in ancient times largely by one&#8217;s ties to family and   tribe, and one&#8217;s place in an ancestral line. The Bible does not disregard   these ties in the question of identity and worth. Indeed, the prophets call   Israel to faithfulness based on their worth according to their ancestry going   back to Abraham. &#8220;Look to the rock from which you were hewn &#8230; look to   Abraham your father&#8221; (Isaiah 51:1, 2).</p>
<p><strong>Identity Crisis</strong><br />
I believe that some Gentiles in the Messianic Jewish   movement are having an identity crisis and are not solving the problem the   right way. The Messianic Jewish congregational movement is a movement of Jews   and Gentiles who have joined together in the calling and for the salvation   Israel. Both enjoy and participate in Jewish life patterns. They are one in   the Messiah. Most Christians are not called to become part of Messianic   Jewish congregations though all are called to support the salvation of   Israel. Some are called to the Jewish people as a primary life focus. Their   heart is bonded in a unique way with the Jewish people.</p>
<p>At the same time, and with a tender heart, I observe that   some Gentile believers are attached to the Messianic Jewish movement out of   motives other than a heart burden for Israel and the Jewish community. Rather   they are joined to it as an answer to a personal identity crisis. They read   the promises in the Bible concerning Israel and her future glory. Romans   chapter 9 begins with a list of the benefits of being part of Israel in   answer to the question of what advantage being Jewish provides. Theirs are   the covenants, the patriarchs, the giving of the Law, the Temple, the   priesthood and the glory. Isaiah states that in the future, Israel will   blossom and bud and fill the whole world with fruit. So a Gentile believer   who does not know himself adequately in Messiah thinks that it would be   better to be Jewish or an Israelite. He thinks that if he is not, he is   second class. This has led to amazing diversions.</p>
<p><strong>Diversions in the Messianic World</strong><br />
One group says that those who come to faith in Yeshua,   from any nation, are physical descendants of the lost tribes (the Ephraimite   Movement). They are seeking status in Israel as permanent residents without   the usual benefits of the State. It is as if they are saying, &#8220;If I am a   lost tribes person, then I am an equal Israelite and have equal worth.&#8221;   Another group says that they may not all be physical descendants, but that   there are enough who are descendants that the whole is Israel (the more   moderate Ephraimite Movement).</p>
<p>This is a partial replacement theology (that the church   has replaced Israel and is a new and true Israel). These folks still affirm   the identity of Jews, whom they call the tribe of Judah. Another group is   touting one new man in Yeshua, and lives a Jewish life pattern in some ways,   but it is said that they are beyond Jew and Gentile as a new type of   humanity. This is seen as a great new revelation, but it is not understood   that this is exactly like the third race replacement theology<br />
of the early Church. Many of these groups disparage the Church, even the   Reformation churches, as pagan. This is another way of superior identity   assertion. It betrays a sad lack of understanding of the theology and   practice of the churches.</p>
<p><strong>A Biblical Understanding of Worth and Identity</strong><br />
The problem in all of these movements is a failure to   understand worth and identity from a Biblical perspective and to enter into   it. Jews do have a worth according to God&#8217;s promises to Abraham. Through the   work of Yeshua, however, Gentiles who come to faith in him also become the   children of Abraham. Baptism incorporates the Gentile fully to become the   seed of the<br />
Messiah and hence the seed of Abraham. This happens by a creative miracle of   the Holy Spirit. In addition, one can now redeem one&#8217;s ancestry by forgiving   what was bad and receiving with gratitude that which was good. So one can be   a Norwegian seed of Abraham, as well as French, Chinese or Russian. I do not   wrestle with the fact that my ancestry is both Jewish and Norwegian as if   this makes me lesser and only a half Jew. I am a Jew, but I appreciate both,   and both become full of meaning in the Messiah. Indeed, different Church   traditions of worship and life patterns are enriching from this perspective.   All of us share the rich value of being created in the image of God and being   a new creation.</p>
<p><strong>One New Man</strong><br />
The &#8220;one new man&#8221; of this theology is the one   new humanity. It is not homogenization. It is the complement of mutual   blessing as in a marriage. In Messiah, with regard to worth and spiritual   acceptance, there is no male or female. But male and female in the Messiah   continue and produce the amazing personal enrichment of a marriage in   Messiah. In the same way, Jew and Gentile are to enrich one another. Instead   of seeking to prove that one had a Jewish ancestor way back when, or that one   is from the lost tribes, it is much better to bring our uniqueness in the   Messiah for mutual blessing. It is much better to embrace one&#8217;s ethnicity in   the Messiah by dying to any<br />
idolatry of it. We all write life stories out of the background we have been   given, whether an African tribesman or a Japanese warrior. Identity issues   are solved for Gentiles in realizing that they are created in the image of   God, each with his own unique ethnic and cultural heritage. They are now the   seed of Abraham through the Messiah. They are part of the one new man, His   glorious bride. There is nothing better than this. There are different   callings, but without status superiority in the body. Israel&#8217;s promises are glorious,   but not more than the promises of glory for all in the bride of the Messiah.   All peoples can enter into this as full participants. The gospel is preached   to all nations. In the Messiah we together form an amazing wholeness out of   the variety of peoples that make up God&#8217;s multifaceted body. It is with this   understanding that the call of Gentiles to serve in Messianic Jewish contexts   is such a blessing. Identity is based on memory and purpose, which is future   oriented. That memory includes a healthy ancestral dimension. In the Messiah   all can come to their fullness of meaning and identity.</p>
<p>Daniel Juster is the founder of Tikkun Ministries. To   contact him, go to <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4F4FfdbWtL9oFqJKxTffXyqsm88ZBa5oomdBhlhsY97_GhGnt-ubyYhP3SzF6WeurTR-hetLzRF1AKB0Or-A3KawbqEKwGSO3z8PhDCQru4cQ==" target="_blank">www.tikkunministries.org</a></p>
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We, meaning my husband, Angus, me, and Scott Diffenderfer   of the MIA, wrote the following response:</p>
<p><strong>Is There an Identity   Crisis Among Gentile Believers? </strong></p>
<p>Yes, and thousands of Believers have denied Jesus and   converted to Judaism because of it.</p>
<p>The problem: Some mistakenly teach that the Church   replaced the Jewish people. Some say the Jew has a preeminent position.   However, Scripture reveals that Believers are called to be former Gentiles   who join Messiah&#8217;s eternal commonwealth of Israel- and they did not replace   the Jewish people (Zech 2:12; Eph 2:11-22).</p>
<p>Joseph&#8217;s son, Ephraim, was to become a fullness of the   Gentiles. God divided Israel&#8217;s twelve tribes into two houses: Israel/Ephraim   and Judah. These chosen ones were given different punishments and promises,   destined to serve different purposes, and in the last days have their two sticks   made one in the Father&#8217;s hand. Prior to this, both the houses of Israel would   stumble<br />
over the Sanctuary that is the Messiah (1 Ki 12:24; Isa 8:13-14; Jer   33:23-26; Eze 37:15-28; Hos 1-2; John 2:19-22; 1 Pet 2:9-10).</p>
<p>Hosea called Ephraim&#8217;s scattered ones, &#8220;sons of the   Living God&#8221; and said they would be regathered from every nation. Abraham   was promised myriads of biological heirs. Ephraim is among this promised   progeny. Only God in Heaven knows who they are. Israel can become lost to their   Israelite heritage but not lost to God (Gen 48:19; Hos 5:3; 8:8; Amos 9:9;   Zech 10:6-9; Rom<br />
4:19-22; 11:25).</p>
<p>Both Judah and Ephraim, and their companions, are part of   greater Israel. Strangers who lived in harmony with ancient Israel become as   native sons and Jesus affirmed this principle (Exo 12:48; Num 15:15-16; Isa   56:3-8; Mat 7:21).</p>
<p>When we are born from above we receive the spirit of   adoption, and everyone, including Jews, must be adopted into this New   Covenant &#8220;family of God&#8221; (Rom 3:23; 8:15,16,23; 9:4 Gal 4:5; Eph   1:5).</p>
<p>Having a faith like Abraham does not change the facts   about our actual forefathers. Israel is called to return and worship God in   spirit and truth. We cannot know who is an Israelite so we preach the Gospel   in every nation and trust God to call whomsoever He will into His fold-as   full heirs (Isa 51:11; John 4:24; Gal 3:26; Phil 3:3).</p>
<p>Demanding rights or disparaging others will not help   move us forward in our high call. Like the early Disciples, our goal is the   restoration of the Kingdom to Israel. It will be restored, not by the might   of man, but by the power of the Holy Spirit (1 Sam 2:9; Amos 9:11; Zec 4:6;   Acts 1:8; 15:16).<br />
When Believers deny other Believers their rightful portion as   &#8220;part&#8221; of the people of Israel, they help to create a crisis. The   Messianic Israel Alliance is dedicated to helping to put an end to that   crisis.</p>
<p>Yours For the Salvation of the Whole House of Israel,<br />
Angus and Batya Wootten, Authors: <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4Ho9gIr6FHyWtroni_yiETxI2YSbaS55ytiCDtygmbYnUvHQOu808f3PeEYA4Us3arv2LdsuLdgIP163bZHvvLd21XFzNdkTE-J1RwjWTlLtLODI0SPkECU" target="_blank">www.keyofdavidpublishing.com</a><br />
Scott Diffenderfer, COO Messianic Israel Alliance:<a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4EUGZw0YhxOVH-3dqm8NzjKffj3W9AjQLmf3p07C4rIQtnNR9iG2mtQrnvk-jWgsZXgkCHpOQ7vFTYwqBVyLyBxssVaDgRY-Ul0tRzQJMoTQA==" target="_blank"> www.messianicisrael.com</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was in a chat room where scripture was being taught this week and someone came in saying we do not have to obey the law anymore. I decided to engage this person and inquire as to why. They responded that the Law is no longer written on stone tablets, but on his heart.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a chat room this week where scripture was being taught and someone came in saying we do not have to obey the law anymore. I decided to engage this person and inquire as to why. They responded that the Law is no longer written on stone tablets, but on his heart.</p>
<p>I said that is awesome! I know exactly what he means as I now have the law of gravity written on my heart and<span id="more-82"></span> I now float 18 inches off the ground. I no longer am under the bondage of gravity and am free to defy it. I must admit though, that it kinda feels like I am still walking on the ground, but maybe soon it won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Then I said that I also put the traffic laws on my heart and now drive at 125 mph. The police seem to not understand the bible and keep giving me tickets. Can you imagine? We will have to keep the police in prayer as they just don&#8217;t understand the law like we do.</p>
<p>And just the other day, I was doing my taxes and then decided I would just give it to the Lord and He wrote the tax laws on my heart too. Yeah&#8230;now I don&#8217;t have to pay taxes. Hmm, that one I kinda like?!? Uh hold on&#8230;.the IRS is at the door, let me see what they could possibly want.</p>
<p>So what does it mean to be &#8220;Free In Jesus&#8221;? What makes us free anyway?</p>
<p>This nation has more laws on the books than any Nation in the world and is called the &#8220;Freest Country In The World&#8221;  at least for a little longer anyway.</p>
<p>You obey its laws and you are free to be anything you want. You disobey its laws and you go to jail and you lose your freedom. <strong>Yet while living in freedom by being a law abiding citizen in this country we somehow think that obeying God is bondage</strong>.</p>
<p>So in the same way that writing the Tax, Gravitational, and Traffic Laws on my heart do not relieve me from it&#8217;s observance or effects, either does writing God&#8217;s Laws on my heart relieve me from obeying Him! It is no wonder the body of Christ is sick, broke and split&#8230;.we don&#8217;t obey Him. He PROMISES us His blessings will overtake those who obey Him&#8230;.In the same breath He says that curses will follow those who disobey Him.</p>
<p>Besides, the whole logic is nuts. If you write something on your heart, you are making it part of you. My coveneant to my wife is written on my heart! Does she need to worry if we lose the piece of paper that says we are committed to each other? No, it is written on my heart. I gave her my heart. Yahshua wants your heart too! He said <strong>if you love me, keep my commandments</strong>! So write them on you heart and show your love for Him through your obedience! He will in return bless you!</p>
<p>Shalom,<br />
Victor</p>
<p>p.s. By the way&#8230;The person left the room. What about you?</p>
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		<title>New Way To Get Saved?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who have embraced the Hebraic Roots of their faith are often accused of believing in a new way to get saved. Well I want to share a pattern that is revealed in the story of the Exodus and I hope that it will alleviate this false rumor.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who have embraced the Hebraic Roots of their faith are often accused of believing in a new way to get saved. Well I want to share a pattern that is revealed in the story of the Exodus and I hope that it will alleviate this false rumor.</p>
<p>So what is this false rumor? Well mainly that you have to keep the commandments to be saved. First let me say plainly&#8230;No, you do not have to keep the commandments to get saved!</p>
<p>Ok, I have said this at least a few times to certain people and amazingly they will repeat the false accusation over and over, even though I categorically deny the belief. Why do they keep accusing then? Well, I once heard it explained that they have a level of understanding that must fit within a box and anything out side that box just can&#8217;t get in the box. <span id="more-44"></span>That is why we must pray that eyes and ears be opened by Yahshua. I try not to have any anger against these false accusers as they really are just having a hard time seeing outside the box. For the most part I believe they love Yahshua and are trying to protect what they perceive to be the truth. So do not be angry! Remember, for the majority of you reading this&#8230;You were likely saying the same thing at one time. I did!</p>
<p>If they would just listen to what I will write below and ask God to reveal the truth to them, I think they will at least stop the false accusations. For their sake I pray it be so.</p>
<p>Salvation is by Grace through Faith in Yahshua (Jesus) alone!</p>
<p>Keeping all commandments perfectly without the blood of the lamb will not get you into The Kingdom!</p>
<p>Then why do we say you must keep the Commandments? Well&#8230;we don&#8217;t Yahweh does! For salvation? No, for blessing only!</p>
<p>I am amazed that we live in a culture that teaches it&#8217;s children to obey their parents because we love our children and only want the best for them and want no harm to come to them and in the next breath utter the words that we don&#8217;t have to obey the Heavenly Father. Do you place too hard a burden on your children by telling them not to play in the street? Are you placing your child under some iron fist when you command them to stop before running into traffic? No&#8230;that sounds like a loving parent to me.</p>
<p>Lets go back to the Exodus for a minute and see the pattern for salvation.</p>
<p>Israel was in slavery&#8230;In bondage to Pharaoh. A type and shadow of how we are slaves to sin. Yahweh commanded that a death angel would kill all the firstborn who did not do what? Kill the lamb and put it&#8217;s blood over their doorposts.</p>
<p>It is only by the blood of the lamb that we can be saved. Then all the people were immersed into the Red Sea or Sea of Reeds and came out free on the other side. The bones of Joseph (a type and shadow of Messiah) were no longer in Egypt. The grave was empty! At this point the people were saved by the blood of the lamb. They believed through faith that covering themself in the blood of the Lamb would save them. Sounds just like how we are saved today. Why do I bring up this story? One reason!</p>
<p>The Torah or Commandments had not been given to them yet! They had not even heard them from the mountain yet. We believe the same way. We do not toss a bible in front of people and say for them to swear that they will keep the Torah and then they can be saved. Why because it is not &#8220;The Way&#8221;. It never has been and it isn&#8217;t now. So frankly&#8230;.stop the accusations. I&#8217;m tired of it and it is false and that makes you an accuser of the brethren. A false accuser at that.</p>
<p>So we believe you are saved through faith, then you are Immersed (baptized). Then why the Commandments? Well let&#8217;s continue in the story. Yahweh brings &#8220;His&#8221; people to the Mountain and the people hear His Voice speak the 10 Commandments and the ancient writers over 2000 years ago (before Yahshua&#8217;s walk on the earth) say that tongues of fire came off the mountain and rested on each person and they heard Him speak in over 70 languages. Do you know what day this happened? The same exact day as in Acts where the tongues of fire came and rested on a group of 120 people in an upper room and they went out speaking to people in their own tongues. The day the Holy Spirit was given. Shavuot or Pentecost.</p>
<p>Back to the mountain. The people were so scared by the awesome power of God they asked Moses to please ask God to speak to Him directly and they would then do what Moses said. Yahweh agreed! Guess what, If he had not agreed to this, the people would have heard every commandment out of the mouth of God. But He agreed and so we have the Torah of Moses. The first 5 books of the bible. Spoken to Moses by The Word of God.</p>
<p>Quick question&#8230;Who is The Word?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right, Yahshua is The Word! He spoke to Moses and told him to teach My children so they will be blessed. The Torah, The Word of God, The Living Word&#8230;comes from the lips of our blessed Messiah Yahshua.</p>
<p>So they could be saved? No He already did that! He gave the Torah to His people so they would know how to live. So they would know how to be Holy before Him. So they would be blessed in their walk. And so they would understand His times and seasons, and His plan of redeeming the whole world. That is why we study His Torah. It is the foundation that all other scriptures rest on.</p>
<p>We obey the commandments because we wish to be blessed and not cursed. We obey because we choose life an not death. We obey because we Love Yahshua and He said, &#8220;If you love Me, keep My Commandments&#8221;. Not for salvation! But just because we love Him!</p>
<p>So is there a new way to get saved? No, the way remained the same as from the beginning. Please turn back to The Beginning and start at the front of the Book and ask God to reveal his truth to you.</p>
<p>One with You,<br />
Victor</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first post to The Vine Blog.</p>
<p>Ron is doing great and he will be posting here soon.</p>
<p>Please bear with us as we get everything set up.</p>
<p>Victor</p>
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