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		<title>Is There an Identity Crisis Amoung Gentile Believers?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shalom Homer,

Batya posted an important article on her Facebook page which you can also find on her Redeemed Israel Discussion Board. Based on an article in Charisma Magazine, the discussion is titled, "Is There an Identity Crisis Among Gentile Believers?" (We believe "Gentile Believers" is a misnomer but nonetheless copied the title of the article in question. ]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>Last night at our Scripture study I talked about this article that was written by Daniel Juster which disparages the Messianic Israel movement. This article was in Charisma magazine. This article just brings more confusion those in the church because they seem to see everything as Jewish and do not understand about our Hebrew Heritage. As you read the article &#8220;Is There an Identity Crisis Among Gentile Believer&#8221;</em></strong><em> <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">read the wording carefully</span>. As you will see Juster claims that you must have a Jewish heritage to be Israel, he does not believe we have the right to claim that we are Israel. The response by Batya Wooten is on target about who we are as Israel.</strong> </em></p>
<p><strong><em>What concerns me is that both Messianic Jewish Alliance and Messianic Israel believe in Yeshua but there is a battle that has to be resolved. The Scripture says in Ezekiel 37:19 that the two sticks will be one House of Ephraim and House of Judah, and we know that Yeshua came for the Whole House of Israel. It is very important that we walk in love for our Jewish brethren and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.</em></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Homer Ledford</em></strong></p></blockquote>
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<td><strong>Shalom Homer,</strong></p>
<p>Batya posted an important   article on her <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4GPWwqAPOuTNgpjkFkBbXk3Otc9B2PHHWMgSd9F8D0ht1ANJZVPw4ItZN072Dolo-5eiA7YaUj5TTxtWLTTN3ur-KRAwxMXcb5Skbtlp9iG6ztHvJGiQGyHbbiHOj97fDg=" target="_blank">Facebook</a> page which you can also find on her <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4HEuP_xaPuU-rAeyXKMoLm4a8_824CFjxeuf1F5btJlaJORCnlmROA3DHMgmgol88-PBox8HDN7f6NisCTOhwiJVCVG2RTbItObzuH-r5WjLwILW1KB3pMqGF9xk3kQtMDtw7EghJT_VFCvqIN8fe0LNcTkZuBmT7ljzD2DCqfrEljn36YMvTetrVc-i7ddcyfvSHKxXMj2SbmmxfXZv3KcrG76eE3UZ8aKAOGJk3bUoQ==" target="_blank">Redeemed Israel Discussion Board</a>. Based on an article in <em>Charisma   Magazine</em>, the discussion is titled,<em> &#8220;Is There</em> <em>an Identity   Crisis Among Gentile Believers?&#8221;</em> (We believe &#8220;Gentile   Believers&#8221; is a misnomer but nonetheless copied the title of the article   in question. Among the points that we make in our response is that,    Believers are called to be &#8220;former Gentiles.&#8221;)</p>
<p>If our reply blesses you, let us hear from you and let <em>Charisma</em> hear from you. The Charisma article and the reply from Angus and Batya, and   Scott Diffenderfer are both posted bellow. Our response was to long to be   posted there (<em>Charisma</em>), so Batya did two short post instead. To see   the article online and/or reply to it click <a title="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4F1RfSjHFNFGOjeeFCLb-xYqkvB9yjo9jUKDOH6NbVaS944stx5gS5dlkqqiz2UM1bvDR4rI8LEaf6IZJSCWrTbXVKJKyEYmS9NSzUueXqGzK08-7KafLX6LaIlxS85jydenakzxh_xD3nfxywIh18J7ipwgVGrLxrZQiJMp1iF02DfLpRbsMZY8WHkwPHM" href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4F1RfSjHFNFGOjeeFCLb-xYqkvB9yjo9jUKDOH6NbVaS944stx5gS5dlkqqiz2UM1bvDR4rI8LEaf6IZJSCWrTbXVKJKyEYmS9NSzUueXqGzK08-7KafLX6LaIlxS85jydenakzxh_xD3nfxywIh18J7ipwgVGrLxrZQiJMp1iF02DfLpRbsMZY8WHkwPHMi_JgWRNZxJYqcAKADx5I-t45XdjLQkjVrvKgPwhBIkdk9jRzu8yr5xex" target="_blank">Charisma article</a>.</p>
<p>Shalom,</p>
<p>Angus</p>
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<p><strong>Batya writes:</strong></p>
<p>On the Charisma Magazine page I recently found an article   by Daniel Juster in the &#8220;Stand With Israel&#8221; section (It is posted   below along with a link to it.) I personally think it is important that   Charisma readers hear from us on this issue. The article is based on an important   question, &#8220;Is There an Identity Crisis Among Gentile Believers?&#8221; In   it, Dan writes:</p>
<p>As we walked past the Egyptian exhibit in the Museum   of Art History in Vienna, I noted the great importance placed upon memorials   for the dead. The wealthy took great pains to prepare proper tombs and   memorials. Embalming to preserve the body was of prime importance. Why did   the Egyptians do this? It was a way of declaring significance in the face of   death. Human beings<br />
want to believe they are significant in the scheme of things. Anthropology   teaches us that traditions concerning death and the dead almost universally   declare life after death. These traditions affirm the significance of human   life in the face of death. The reasons for belief in significance vary, but   no religious system gives the quality answer that we find in the Bible, where   we learn that human beings are created in the image of God, for an   everlasting life of fellowship with Him and with other human beings.</p>
<p>This is the beginning point for the question of identity:   Who am I? Do I have worth? Many people experience great doubt concerning   their worth. They experienced terrible rejections in their growing up years,   or tragic events that gave rise to deep questions concerning their own worth.   Identity was defined in ancient times largely by one&#8217;s ties to family and   tribe, and one&#8217;s place in an ancestral line. The Bible does not disregard   these ties in the question of identity and worth. Indeed, the prophets call   Israel to faithfulness based on their worth according to their ancestry going   back to Abraham. &#8220;Look to the rock from which you were hewn &#8230; look to   Abraham your father&#8221; (Isaiah 51:1, 2).</p>
<p><strong>Identity Crisis</strong><br />
I believe that some Gentiles in the Messianic Jewish   movement are having an identity crisis and are not solving the problem the   right way. The Messianic Jewish congregational movement is a movement of Jews   and Gentiles who have joined together in the calling and for the salvation   Israel. Both enjoy and participate in Jewish life patterns. They are one in   the Messiah. Most Christians are not called to become part of Messianic   Jewish congregations though all are called to support the salvation of   Israel. Some are called to the Jewish people as a primary life focus. Their   heart is bonded in a unique way with the Jewish people.</p>
<p>At the same time, and with a tender heart, I observe that   some Gentile believers are attached to the Messianic Jewish movement out of   motives other than a heart burden for Israel and the Jewish community. Rather   they are joined to it as an answer to a personal identity crisis. They read   the promises in the Bible concerning Israel and her future glory. Romans   chapter 9 begins with a list of the benefits of being part of Israel in   answer to the question of what advantage being Jewish provides. Theirs are   the covenants, the patriarchs, the giving of the Law, the Temple, the   priesthood and the glory. Isaiah states that in the future, Israel will   blossom and bud and fill the whole world with fruit. So a Gentile believer   who does not know himself adequately in Messiah thinks that it would be   better to be Jewish or an Israelite. He thinks that if he is not, he is   second class. This has led to amazing diversions.</p>
<p><strong>Diversions in the Messianic World</strong><br />
One group says that those who come to faith in Yeshua,   from any nation, are physical descendants of the lost tribes (the Ephraimite   Movement). They are seeking status in Israel as permanent residents without   the usual benefits of the State. It is as if they are saying, &#8220;If I am a   lost tribes person, then I am an equal Israelite and have equal worth.&#8221;   Another group says that they may not all be physical descendants, but that   there are enough who are descendants that the whole is Israel (the more   moderate Ephraimite Movement).</p>
<p>This is a partial replacement theology (that the church   has replaced Israel and is a new and true Israel). These folks still affirm   the identity of Jews, whom they call the tribe of Judah. Another group is   touting one new man in Yeshua, and lives a Jewish life pattern in some ways,   but it is said that they are beyond Jew and Gentile as a new type of   humanity. This is seen as a great new revelation, but it is not understood   that this is exactly like the third race replacement theology<br />
of the early Church. Many of these groups disparage the Church, even the   Reformation churches, as pagan. This is another way of superior identity   assertion. It betrays a sad lack of understanding of the theology and   practice of the churches.</p>
<p><strong>A Biblical Understanding of Worth and Identity</strong><br />
The problem in all of these movements is a failure to   understand worth and identity from a Biblical perspective and to enter into   it. Jews do have a worth according to God&#8217;s promises to Abraham. Through the   work of Yeshua, however, Gentiles who come to faith in him also become the   children of Abraham. Baptism incorporates the Gentile fully to become the   seed of the<br />
Messiah and hence the seed of Abraham. This happens by a creative miracle of   the Holy Spirit. In addition, one can now redeem one&#8217;s ancestry by forgiving   what was bad and receiving with gratitude that which was good. So one can be   a Norwegian seed of Abraham, as well as French, Chinese or Russian. I do not   wrestle with the fact that my ancestry is both Jewish and Norwegian as if   this makes me lesser and only a half Jew. I am a Jew, but I appreciate both,   and both become full of meaning in the Messiah. Indeed, different Church   traditions of worship and life patterns are enriching from this perspective.   All of us share the rich value of being created in the image of God and being   a new creation.</p>
<p><strong>One New Man</strong><br />
The &#8220;one new man&#8221; of this theology is the one   new humanity. It is not homogenization. It is the complement of mutual   blessing as in a marriage. In Messiah, with regard to worth and spiritual   acceptance, there is no male or female. But male and female in the Messiah   continue and produce the amazing personal enrichment of a marriage in   Messiah. In the same way, Jew and Gentile are to enrich one another. Instead   of seeking to prove that one had a Jewish ancestor way back when, or that one   is from the lost tribes, it is much better to bring our uniqueness in the   Messiah for mutual blessing. It is much better to embrace one&#8217;s ethnicity in   the Messiah by dying to any<br />
idolatry of it. We all write life stories out of the background we have been   given, whether an African tribesman or a Japanese warrior. Identity issues   are solved for Gentiles in realizing that they are created in the image of   God, each with his own unique ethnic and cultural heritage. They are now the   seed of Abraham through the Messiah. They are part of the one new man, His   glorious bride. There is nothing better than this. There are different   callings, but without status superiority in the body. Israel&#8217;s promises are glorious,   but not more than the promises of glory for all in the bride of the Messiah.   All peoples can enter into this as full participants. The gospel is preached   to all nations. In the Messiah we together form an amazing wholeness out of   the variety of peoples that make up God&#8217;s multifaceted body. It is with this   understanding that the call of Gentiles to serve in Messianic Jewish contexts   is such a blessing. Identity is based on memory and purpose, which is future   oriented. That memory includes a healthy ancestral dimension. In the Messiah   all can come to their fullness of meaning and identity.</p>
<p>Daniel Juster is the founder of Tikkun Ministries. To   contact him, go to <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4F4FfdbWtL9oFqJKxTffXyqsm88ZBa5oomdBhlhsY97_GhGnt-ubyYhP3SzF6WeurTR-hetLzRF1AKB0Or-A3KawbqEKwGSO3z8PhDCQru4cQ==" target="_blank">www.tikkunministries.org</a></p>
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We, meaning my husband, Angus, me, and Scott Diffenderfer   of the MIA, wrote the following response:</p>
<p><strong>Is There an Identity   Crisis Among Gentile Believers? </strong></p>
<p>Yes, and thousands of Believers have denied Jesus and   converted to Judaism because of it.</p>
<p>The problem: Some mistakenly teach that the Church   replaced the Jewish people. Some say the Jew has a preeminent position.   However, Scripture reveals that Believers are called to be former Gentiles   who join Messiah&#8217;s eternal commonwealth of Israel- and they did not replace   the Jewish people (Zech 2:12; Eph 2:11-22).</p>
<p>Joseph&#8217;s son, Ephraim, was to become a fullness of the   Gentiles. God divided Israel&#8217;s twelve tribes into two houses: Israel/Ephraim   and Judah. These chosen ones were given different punishments and promises,   destined to serve different purposes, and in the last days have their two sticks   made one in the Father&#8217;s hand. Prior to this, both the houses of Israel would   stumble<br />
over the Sanctuary that is the Messiah (1 Ki 12:24; Isa 8:13-14; Jer   33:23-26; Eze 37:15-28; Hos 1-2; John 2:19-22; 1 Pet 2:9-10).</p>
<p>Hosea called Ephraim&#8217;s scattered ones, &#8220;sons of the   Living God&#8221; and said they would be regathered from every nation. Abraham   was promised myriads of biological heirs. Ephraim is among this promised   progeny. Only God in Heaven knows who they are. Israel can become lost to their   Israelite heritage but not lost to God (Gen 48:19; Hos 5:3; 8:8; Amos 9:9;   Zech 10:6-9; Rom<br />
4:19-22; 11:25).</p>
<p>Both Judah and Ephraim, and their companions, are part of   greater Israel. Strangers who lived in harmony with ancient Israel become as   native sons and Jesus affirmed this principle (Exo 12:48; Num 15:15-16; Isa   56:3-8; Mat 7:21).</p>
<p>When we are born from above we receive the spirit of   adoption, and everyone, including Jews, must be adopted into this New   Covenant &#8220;family of God&#8221; (Rom 3:23; 8:15,16,23; 9:4 Gal 4:5; Eph   1:5).</p>
<p>Having a faith like Abraham does not change the facts   about our actual forefathers. Israel is called to return and worship God in   spirit and truth. We cannot know who is an Israelite so we preach the Gospel   in every nation and trust God to call whomsoever He will into His fold-as   full heirs (Isa 51:11; John 4:24; Gal 3:26; Phil 3:3).</p>
<p>Demanding rights or disparaging others will not help   move us forward in our high call. Like the early Disciples, our goal is the   restoration of the Kingdom to Israel. It will be restored, not by the might   of man, but by the power of the Holy Spirit (1 Sam 2:9; Amos 9:11; Zec 4:6;   Acts 1:8; 15:16).<br />
When Believers deny other Believers their rightful portion as   &#8220;part&#8221; of the people of Israel, they help to create a crisis. The   Messianic Israel Alliance is dedicated to helping to put an end to that   crisis.</p>
<p>Yours For the Salvation of the Whole House of Israel,<br />
Angus and Batya Wootten, Authors: <a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4Ho9gIr6FHyWtroni_yiETxI2YSbaS55ytiCDtygmbYnUvHQOu808f3PeEYA4Us3arv2LdsuLdgIP163bZHvvLd21XFzNdkTE-J1RwjWTlLtLODI0SPkECU" target="_blank">www.keyofdavidpublishing.com</a><br />
Scott Diffenderfer, COO Messianic Israel Alliance:<a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4EUGZw0YhxOVH-3dqm8NzjKffj3W9AjQLmf3p07C4rIQtnNR9iG2mtQrnvk-jWgsZXgkCHpOQ7vFTYwqBVyLyBxssVaDgRY-Ul0tRzQJMoTQA==" target="_blank"> www.messianicisrael.com</a></p>
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To see the Charisma article and/or reply to it click<a href="http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103130187097&amp;s=2224&amp;e=001bgDeheC6i4F1RfSjHFNFGOjeeFCLb-xYqkvB9yjo9jUKDOH6NbVaS944stx5gS5dlkqqiz2UM1bvDR4rI8LEaf6IZJSCWrTbXVKJKyEYmS9NSzUueXqGzK08-7KafLX6LaIlxS85jydenakzxh_xD3nfxywIh18J7ipwgVGrLxrZQiJMp1iF02DfLpRbsMZY8WHkwPHMi_JgWRNZxJYqcAKADx5I-t45XdjLQkjVrvKgPwhBIkdk9jRzu8yr5xex" target="_blank"> Charisma article</a>.</td>
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